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		<title>By: Cecee</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2010/01/28/natick-cyclist-killed-by-driver-of-suv/comment-page-1#comment-57385</link>
		<dc:creator>Cecee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 22:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this was my uncle &lt;3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this was my uncle &lt;3</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Lewis</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2010/01/28/natick-cyclist-killed-by-driver-of-suv/comment-page-1#comment-31584</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 19:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The police have been completely useless and are covering up the assault.
I filed a charge against the fire captain the cops aren&#039;t going to do anything about. The friends and relatives of FOP members are above the law it seems. I may have a good lawsuit though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The police have been completely useless and are covering up the assault.<br />
I filed a charge against the fire captain the cops aren&#8217;t going to do anything about. The friends and relatives of FOP members are above the law it seems. I may have a good lawsuit though.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Dieterich</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2010/01/28/natick-cyclist-killed-by-driver-of-suv/comment-page-1#comment-31248</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Dieterich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang tough Bill and fight it (not in the physical sense ;)!  We need to be heard when situations like this come up.  Did you file a report with the police?  Even if they won&#039;t charge him, its important to file a report as this is the only way to build a written record of behavior, should this particular officer do something similar in the future.  Bill, bravo for not taking the bait and making it a physical contest, the odds were not stacked in your favor.

This is also a good reminder to every one of us... it does not good to lash out at motorists.  In fact, it often puts us cyclists at greater risk.  For whatever reason, road rage is definitely on the rise and you never know who your verbal comments or bumper you may slap.  It&#039;s tough though.  In the heat of the moment, it&#039;s far to easy to loose control of your feelings and lash out.  I have certainly been guilty of putting myself in unnecessary danger by doing just this, but over the years I&#039;ve matured to the point where I realize it does no good.

I know many great cyclists and I have faith in those why choose the bicycle for their mode of transportation.  We can rise above the petty bickering and calmly, patiently erode the anger gap that has formed between two different modes of transportation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang tough Bill and fight it (not in the physical sense <img src='http://ribike.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> !  We need to be heard when situations like this come up.  Did you file a report with the police?  Even if they won&#8217;t charge him, its important to file a report as this is the only way to build a written record of behavior, should this particular officer do something similar in the future.  Bill, bravo for not taking the bait and making it a physical contest, the odds were not stacked in your favor.</p>
<p>This is also a good reminder to every one of us&#8230; it does not good to lash out at motorists.  In fact, it often puts us cyclists at greater risk.  For whatever reason, road rage is definitely on the rise and you never know who your verbal comments or bumper you may slap.  It&#8217;s tough though.  In the heat of the moment, it&#8217;s far to easy to loose control of your feelings and lash out.  I have certainly been guilty of putting myself in unnecessary danger by doing just this, but over the years I&#8217;ve matured to the point where I realize it does no good.</p>
<p>I know many great cyclists and I have faith in those why choose the bicycle for their mode of transportation.  We can rise above the petty bickering and calmly, patiently erode the anger gap that has formed between two different modes of transportation.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Lewis</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2010/01/28/natick-cyclist-killed-by-driver-of-suv/comment-page-1#comment-31244</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 03:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Then there are the people who are even more dangerous, the type that purposely runs red lights, cuts close to pedestrians and cyclists, or even harasses other road users. When these people cause accidents, I believe they deserve the above and more, perhaps even jail time. They certainly don’t deserve another chance to get behind the wheel of a car.&quot;
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 I am dealing with this right now, I was riding in Newport where I live and a road raging  driver in an SUV came up on me very fast and started tail gating and sustained horn blowing then buzzed me while passing on the right. I reached out and and spanked her truck on the fender and now it&#039;s me who is going to court. Hopefully the judge will dismiss the charge because of the driver&#039;s anger management problem. The kicker is that her husband is a Newport fire captain whose brother is the police dispatcher and he assaulted me verbally and physically tried to get me in a fight and the cops won&#039;t charge him in spite of there being a witness. All this because I took the lane and she wanted to get to RED light a hundred feet ahead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Then there are the people who are even more dangerous, the type that purposely runs red lights, cuts close to pedestrians and cyclists, or even harasses other road users. When these people cause accidents, I believe they deserve the above and more, perhaps even jail time. They certainly don’t deserve another chance to get behind the wheel of a car.&#8221;
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<p> I am dealing with this right now, I was riding in Newport where I live and a road raging  driver in an SUV came up on me very fast and started tail gating and sustained horn blowing then buzzed me while passing on the right. I reached out and and spanked her truck on the fender and now it&#8217;s me who is going to court. Hopefully the judge will dismiss the charge because of the driver&#8217;s anger management problem. The kicker is that her husband is a Newport fire captain whose brother is the police dispatcher and he assaulted me verbally and physically tried to get me in a fight and the cops won&#8217;t charge him in spite of there being a witness. All this because I took the lane and she wanted to get to RED light a hundred feet ahead.</p>
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		<title>By: Durishin</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2010/01/28/natick-cyclist-killed-by-driver-of-suv/comment-page-1#comment-31227</link>
		<dc:creator>Durishin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 21:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noman.

Interesting statistics.  But the rightwards shift in age distribution (ie. the increased number of elderly drivers) may dilute the effects of educating the young.  Age distribution of drivers in accidents across those two measurements would be helpful information here.

At the U.S. Open Cycling Foundation, we deliver plenty of education to elementary schools and the uptake seems pretty good, but they are less at risk than older kids who may ride longer into the evening and have less reticence to take busier roads.  Middle to high schoolers, though, should get the message.  But they get lots of messages so I&#039;d not hang my hat on reducing bike/car accidents by training them.  I believe that the College-aged are receptive - goodness knows they need it - and, certainly, adult bike commuters want share the road training.  

Sans training, though, many cyclists will under serve both their own safety and that of the motorist.  Cyclists must take charge to maximize their own safety on the roads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noman.</p>
<p>Interesting statistics.  But the rightwards shift in age distribution (ie. the increased number of elderly drivers) may dilute the effects of educating the young.  Age distribution of drivers in accidents across those two measurements would be helpful information here.</p>
<p>At the U.S. Open Cycling Foundation, we deliver plenty of education to elementary schools and the uptake seems pretty good, but they are less at risk than older kids who may ride longer into the evening and have less reticence to take busier roads.  Middle to high schoolers, though, should get the message.  But they get lots of messages so I&#8217;d not hang my hat on reducing bike/car accidents by training them.  I believe that the College-aged are receptive &#8211; goodness knows they need it &#8211; and, certainly, adult bike commuters want share the road training.  </p>
<p>Sans training, though, many cyclists will under serve both their own safety and that of the motorist.  Cyclists must take charge to maximize their own safety on the roads.</p>
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		<title>By: Durishin</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2010/01/28/natick-cyclist-killed-by-driver-of-suv/comment-page-1#comment-31222</link>
		<dc:creator>Durishin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 19:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a little bet here that mmitchell rides more miles annually than any of the rest of us...by a couple thousand, perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a little bet here that mmitchell rides more miles annually than any of the rest of us&#8230;by a couple thousand, perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2010/01/28/natick-cyclist-killed-by-driver-of-suv/comment-page-1#comment-31219</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point that I take from Mitchel&#039;s post is that the &quot;journalism&quot; is lacking.  I&#039;m sure that reporter will do a follow up with more details about the time of day, conditions, driver, cyclist... all leading to an improvement of the current situation.

I ride my bike to and from work everyday (Tue-Sat) so I get to see a good chunk of road activity. In the winter there are not as many fools on bikes but they are definitely still there. These might be cyclists that have no lights at night, ride on sidewalks, ride on the left and ignore traffic control devices (red lights). Probably fifteen (15) times more often I see Drivers on cell phones that never even knew they almost hit me.

Your mileage may vary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point that I take from Mitchel&#8217;s post is that the &#8220;journalism&#8221; is lacking.  I&#8217;m sure that reporter will do a follow up with more details about the time of day, conditions, driver, cyclist&#8230; all leading to an improvement of the current situation.</p>
<p>I ride my bike to and from work everyday (Tue-Sat) so I get to see a good chunk of road activity. In the winter there are not as many fools on bikes but they are definitely still there. These might be cyclists that have no lights at night, ride on sidewalks, ride on the left and ignore traffic control devices (red lights). Probably fifteen (15) times more often I see Drivers on cell phones that never even knew they almost hit me.</p>
<p>Your mileage may vary.</p>
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		<title>By: Noman</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2010/01/28/natick-cyclist-killed-by-driver-of-suv/comment-page-1#comment-31203</link>
		<dc:creator>Noman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1999, motor vehicle related accidents throughout America took 44,000 lives and injured more than 300,000 drivers and passengers in 3 million reported accidents. In other words, that’s 220 fatalities per year per million drivers, among 200 million licensed. Figures 5 years later reiterated these numbers, showed no decrease despite widespread educational efforts and public service announcements. Fiscal loss to Americans exceeded $150 billion per year, even more than smoking at $100 billion per year nationally. Motor accidents were the third leading cause of death, after cardiovascular disease and cancer [source: National Center for Health Statistics]. Between ages 5 and 65 over 50% of all unintentional injuries resulting in death are motor vehicle related. High speed and substance abuse were the main culprits, especially mo-ves running off rural roads, 4/5 of the nation’s paved thoroughfares.

Any right minded adult rejects education as a solution. Only bicycling/motoring safety outreach to middle schools is possible, but car lobbyists kyboshed that as public policy decades ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1999, motor vehicle related accidents throughout America took 44,000 lives and injured more than 300,000 drivers and passengers in 3 million reported accidents. In other words, that’s 220 fatalities per year per million drivers, among 200 million licensed. Figures 5 years later reiterated these numbers, showed no decrease despite widespread educational efforts and public service announcements. Fiscal loss to Americans exceeded $150 billion per year, even more than smoking at $100 billion per year nationally. Motor accidents were the third leading cause of death, after cardiovascular disease and cancer [source: National Center for Health Statistics]. Between ages 5 and 65 over 50% of all unintentional injuries resulting in death are motor vehicle related. High speed and substance abuse were the main culprits, especially mo-ves running off rural roads, 4/5 of the nation’s paved thoroughfares.</p>
<p>Any right minded adult rejects education as a solution. Only bicycling/motoring safety outreach to middle schools is possible, but car lobbyists kyboshed that as public policy decades ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Durishin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Durishin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ted,  obviously you&#039;ve never been around Benefit Street in Providence at night when the kids are at RISD.  Plenty of cyclists in the dark, sans helmets and reflective anything - save some glitter in their hair perhaps.  I pray that one doesn&#039;t get hit, but someday it will happen.

I see plenty of bikes, elsewhere at night w/o reflectors or lights.  So I am not sure of your point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ted,  obviously you&#8217;ve never been around Benefit Street in Providence at night when the kids are at RISD.  Plenty of cyclists in the dark, sans helmets and reflective anything &#8211; save some glitter in their hair perhaps.  I pray that one doesn&#8217;t get hit, but someday it will happen.</p>
<p>I see plenty of bikes, elsewhere at night w/o reflectors or lights.  So I am not sure of your point.</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Lewandowski</title>
		<link>http://ribike.org/2010/01/28/natick-cyclist-killed-by-driver-of-suv/comment-page-1#comment-31149</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Lewandowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen - most people that ride a bike at night do it out of necessity - either they need to get to work or have to run an errand that could not be done during the course of the day. 

Most probably don&#039;t own a car -either because they can&#039;t afford one or choose not to drive - either way - the reason is unimportant.

And most would be aware that the danger level would increase at night and I&#039;m sure are more vigilant. 

When I need to ride my bike at night - it is because I just need to run an errand and the distance is relatively close to my house (I own two cars if you need to know and hold a CDL Class A license with all available endorsements). My bike has a dyno-hub driven LED Headlight and a Busch and Muller LED taillight but even with that I am extra careful.

This guy Mitchell is an idiot - obviously not even a cyclist because no cyclist would even make a statement like that!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen &#8211; most people that ride a bike at night do it out of necessity &#8211; either they need to get to work or have to run an errand that could not be done during the course of the day. </p>
<p>Most probably don&#8217;t own a car -either because they can&#8217;t afford one or choose not to drive &#8211; either way &#8211; the reason is unimportant.</p>
<p>And most would be aware that the danger level would increase at night and I&#8217;m sure are more vigilant. </p>
<p>When I need to ride my bike at night &#8211; it is because I just need to run an errand and the distance is relatively close to my house (I own two cars if you need to know and hold a CDL Class A license with all available endorsements). My bike has a dyno-hub driven LED Headlight and a Busch and Muller LED taillight but even with that I am extra careful.</p>
<p>This guy Mitchell is an idiot &#8211; obviously not even a cyclist because no cyclist would even make a statement like that!!!</p>
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